What's Es/No mean? - Davy - 06:46 04-03-06
I am new to communication region.
We know that Eb/No means "the ratio of the transmitted signal energy
per bit to the noise spectrum density".
What's Es/No mean? And what's their difference?
Any suggestions will be appreciated!
Best regards,
Davy



Re: What's Es/No mean? - Bevan Weiss - 07:19 04-03-06
logically. Very simple of course.
If you were to transmit multiple bits, what would you call this multiple
bit transmission. ie those multiple bits would be encoded into a signal
transmitted s..... (the word will fit if the dots are replaced with the
correct letters)
Via phonic spelling it's also a percussion instrument.
Davy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am new to communication region.
>
> We know that Eb/No means "the ratio of the transmitted signal energy
> per bit to the noise spectrum density".
>
> What's Es/No mean? And what's their difference?
>
> Any suggestions will be appreciated!
> Best regards,
> Davy
>



Re: What's Es/No mean? - john - 11:19 04-03-06
Bevan Weiss wrote:
> Instead of just giving you the answer, I'll step you through it
> logically. Very simple of course.
>
> If you were to transmit multiple bits, what would you call this multiple
> bit transmission. ie those multiple bits would be encoded into a signal
> transmitted s..... (the word will fit if the dots are replaced with the
> correct letters)
>
> Via phonic spelling it's also a percussion instrument.
>
>
> Davy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am new to communication region.
> >
> > We know that Eb/No means "the ratio of the transmitted signal energy
> > per bit to the noise spectrum density".
> >
> > What's Es/No mean? And what's their difference?
> >
> > Any suggestions will be appreciated!
> > Best regards,
> > Davy
> >
Another distinction -- in a system with FEC, Eb/No normally refers to
the *information* bits, before any FEC is applied. Es/No refers to the
*channel* symbols, after FEC is applied. The channel symbols may in
fact still be "bits" though.
For example, if a r=1/2, K=7 code is used with BPSK, a textbook might
show a BER vs Eb/No curve with two traces on it, coded and uncoded. The
uncoded one will have a 1e-5 BER at the familiar 9.6 dB Eb/No. The
coded one will hit 1e-5 BER at approx 4.5 dB Eb/No (just over 5 dB
gain). The Es/No for the coded case is actually 4.5 + 10*log10(r) = 1.5
dB.
John



Re: What's Es/No mean? - Almas_Uddin_Ahmed - 14:44 04-03-06
it's mean symbol energy to noise ratio.
2.
symbol means a cllection of bit Es=nEb.
in digital communication
u can send your signal by bit (0/1) or symbol (0/1 s0 s1 for bpsk 00
010 10 11s0 s1 s2 s3 for qpsk so here eatch symbol represnt two bit)
it's totally up to u.



Re: What's Es/No mean? - mpoullet - 16:35 04-03-06
You can have a look at :
http://www.sss-mag.com/ebn0.html
and replace "Energy per Bit (Eb)" with "Energy per Symbol (Es)" as
explained in the other answers.
Regards,
Matthieu



Re: What's Es/No mean? - Davy - 02:35 05-03-06
Thank you for your help!
A simple question:
Does 10*log10(rate) mean the code gain of BPSK modulation?
And is there code gain of QAM modulation?
Any suggestions will be appreciated!
Best regards,
Davy



Re: What's Es/No mean? - john - 05:50 05-03-06
Davy wrote:
> Hi john,
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> A simple question:
> Does 10*log10(rate) mean the code gain of BPSK modulation?
> And is there code gain of QAM modulation?
>
> Any suggestions will be appreciated!
> Best regards,
> Davy
10*log10(rate) is the rate of the error correction code, expressed in
decibels. The rate of the code is the ratio of number of input bits to
number of output bits. For a convolutional code this is the inverse of
an integer, for example 1/2, 1/3, etc. It is important to take this
factor into account when comparing coded and uncoded systems, because
to be fair the coded system should be compared to the uncoded system
running at a lower bit rate.
Coding gain is achievable for QAM modulation.
John
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